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Q:  If a book has both an ISBN number and an ISBN number by which to order the book, should we include both? A:  One of these ISBN might be for the International edition. If you have both on the source and you can qualify them, you must include two 020 tags in your records. [...]

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Q:  I’ve noticed that sometimes when I look up the final project titles on the OCLC, some of them have additional ISBN numbers that my PDF copy does not have.  Should I just go off of the paper copy or use both the paper and the OCLC record?  A:  Some OCLC records may have the [...]

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Q:  If there is no ISBN on the item, but the OCLC record lists one, do we include that in our records? A:  These titles are fairly old, so there may not be an ISBN. If you find one on the source then YES, do include it. If you find one in the OCLC record, [...]

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 Q:  If an ISBN is not on an OCLC record should we locate it in another place? A WorldCat search? A:  It is not necessary to go to external sources.  Some of these exercise titles are too old to have an ISBN.

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Q.  If you don’t have an ISBN, but you do have a price, do you put just the price in the 020 tag? A.  If there is no ISBN, just skip the field. You can delete the 020 or leave it blank.

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Q.  If the OCLC record is missing information from some of the tags that are on the Exercise 2 template, do we look for that information in a different source?  A.  If there is an ISBD area in your book for that tag, for example, then yes, you can use the book as your source.  [...]

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Q.  What is the best way to search OCLC Connexion?  A. Searching by ISBN should come first.  But many of these titles do not have an ISBN, so then what?  The next best search is LCCN. Don’t forget about the LCCN. If you find one the book, you need to add it to your records.  [...]

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Q.  Are we supposed to end all our homework problems with a full stop even if AACR2 does not show it? A.  Yes.  AACR2 does not give final punctuation in examples. You must supply where needed. There are some areas that do not get a full stop so be careful.  For example, Area 6 and [...]

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Q.  Is there a resource for general examples for practice and/or reference that might help us check our work for Ex. 1? A.  Use the help documents in Oncourse.  Examples can be found in the Area 1-8 document and the Maxwell book. Review the practice title answer keys. Practice and sample records are very good sources. You [...]

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Q. Do we have to include “U.S.” or “Can.” along with the “pbk.” or “softcover” and if so, do they get included in one parentheses or separate for an ISBN?   A. Some books list multiple ISBNs and you have to include all of them in your description. If you have the qualification such as [...]

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Q. In  AACR2 1.8E1, the examples have a full stop after the parenthetical notations of “(cased).” and “(U.S.).” but not after “(bound)” and “(pbk.)” – when is it appropriate to follow these with a full stop, and when is it not? A. This example in AACR2 includes a record with two ISBNs, so when describing [...]

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Q. There is no ISBN on the source or in the record. Is this a mandatory field? A. If you cannot find one it may be because of the age of the publication. You can just delete this tag. Summers was published right around the time they began to add ISBNs so probably none exists.

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Q. What kinds of guides are there for describing the work’s binding? A. The binding may be part of the qualification in the ISBN. Otherwise we do not transcribe anything about the binding of a book.

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Q. Since an ISBN can be taken from any source do we need to find one if it is not on the scanned pages you provide for us? A. I don’t expect you to go to outside sources for series, ISBN, and notes.

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Q. Can you clarify the rules for entering LCCN# and ISBN? As far as dashes/no dashes? Do you have to enter zeros in place of any of the dashes for either number? A. LCCN is generally found on the t.p. verso, near the CIP blurb. It goes in the 010. The ISBN could be taken [...]

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LCCN Numbers

Q. Several of the titles list a LCCN. Is this number just ignored and do we focus more on the ISBN? A. For exercise 1, ignore those LCCN. We will cover them next week and they will be added to the MARC record for the next exercise. They are a totally different number from the [...]

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Q. In the MARC format, how do you handle information that you have in square brackets in card format? A. If you have something in square brackets in the bibliographic description, then it is the same in MARC.

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Q. For the Deskins book there is no ISBN.  My understanding is that the use of the number didn’t begin until 1966 – 1970.  How do we handle this sort of issue?  Or am I missing something really obvious? A. ISBNs were first added to books in 1965 (called SBN) now they are international (ISBN) [...]

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Q. If you cannot find an ISBN and/or a LCCN, do you skip those as well? A. Yes. If no ISBN is found for the book, it is probably due to the age of the item. If neither number is found just skip these fields.

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Q. Since there is no ISBN # would the terms of availability still be |c?  And what do you mean by terms of availability? A. Terms of availability is the price and yes you put it in a |c.  It is not mandatory without the ISBN.   It would be described in MARC as: 020 __  [...]

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Q. If there is no ISBN, do we still include whether a book is paperback/hard cover along with the price in area 8? If so, do we transcribe it like the examples minus the ISBN? A. Yes  you can include this other information such as qualification and cost without the actual ISBN.  You would transcribe:   [...]

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Q. This is a general question for all titles really, but includes Bartlett…when no ISBN is found and no price is listed…is this field left completely blank? A. If you find no ISBN is area 8 information, completely skip the area.

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Q. In Davenport, there is a number – 11.65 does it mean the price of the book? A. We can’t really verify what this number is. Ignore it.

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Can prices go solo?

Q. If we cannot find the ISBN, but can find the price, should the price be included and if so how is it labeled? A. You can include the price. It is just added for example as $102.00 in card format style at the end of the record. In MARC it would have its own [...]

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Q. Is acid free paper significant to area 8? A. Yes, this is the type of paper it is printed on and will be unique to the ISBN.

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Q. I can’t find any ISBN’s for any of the five practice titles? A. Some of the books are older than the time publishers began to add ISBN numbers. Look closely, some of the exercise 1 titles may have some information associated with the ISBN. History of ISBN: ISBNs were first added to books in 1965 [...]

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Q. When I read the rule # 1.8E2: “If there is no standard number give the terms of availability before any qualification” you would transcribe $1.95 (pbk.) A. This is correct, if this is the only information you have on the ISBN, then the qualification comes before the terms of availability.

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Q. If a book includes information that it is paperback and costs $1.95 but includes no ISBN, do we simply transcribe the paperback and price info without the ISBN info? A. Yes you can do this.  The term paperback must be in the AACR2 abbreviation and inside parens.

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Q. What do you use when there is no ISBN number? Do you use the card catalog number? What if you can’t find the edition? A. ISBNs have only been added to works since the mid 1960′s. History of ISBN: ISBN were added to books in 1965 (called SBN) now international ISBN standardized in 1972). [...]

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Q. If you cannot find an area, for example the edition, what do you do? Do you skip a line to indicate there is not one available or do  you just proceed? For example, for a couple of the assignments I can’t find an edition or any series info. So do I just leave a [...]

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